ratbag on her cartoon band, multi-media creative world, and new EP 'kissing under an (almost) full moon'

Neu ratbag: “I really don’t want to be restricted by anything, in any capacity”

Meet the 21-year-old Auckland multihyphenate who is taking world-building to a whole new level.

Art exists everywhere, in everything and anything, all at once. From one’s mind to their surroundings, creativity and inspiration can be drawn from anywhere, any time. “I’ve been doing art my whole life, without any doubt at all. There’s been no part of me that’s ever questioned it,” admits Sophie Brown.

Performing using the moniker ratbag, it’s clear Sophie understands art and its role in her life. Now, her art exists all around her - band members deemo, fritz, slug, and eugene, are an excellent example - but it was all brought to life from the 21 year old’s teenage imagination from one simple thought: “What if I just create a world, and I think about it really hard every night and I add characters to it [as] a distraction?”

From then, every night, beings and creatures - like, say, deemo or slug - emerged from her mind, swirling and creating stories which she would spend “hours” imagining at night, losing herself in the possibilities. What she perhaps didn’t realise at the time, though, was that it was a distraction from everything around her.

In tandem with the growth of Sophie’s world, that distraction then became a purpose: “I went into my last year [of school] thinking that my art board was going to be a world and that all the characters were going to have names, and I’m going to have repeats of characters in different mediums and make it out of clay.” It was then, simultaneously, that Sophie found herself branching out to music, “It was a bit of an addiction,” she says about starting to write songs. “I couldn’t stop doing it… it really made so much sense, I didn’t feel like I was learning how to do [music]. I just felt like I was in the right place finally.”

All I’m doing is making work where I can be all that I want to be, at once.”

Latest EP ‘kissing under an (almost) full moon’ sees that fictional world stretch into its full potential, as Sophie explores her world in many different mediums at once. “Sometimes when I’m writing a song, I’ll stop writing a song, and just draw or journal and spend time with who, or what, it’s making me feel.”

Equally, Sophie doesn’t falter as she explores sonically, never restricting herself to one genre, metastasising the way her world endlessly unfolds, viewing that sonically: “I really, really, really don’t want to be restricted by anything, in any capacity. I love so much music, and I want to make so much music, and I don’t want to make music under different names or different artists – I want to make it all under me. All I’m doing is making work where I can be all that I want to be, at once.” It’s a pretty on-par perspective coming from an artist, because “once you really get into being an artist, there’s no limit. You can just switch into literally anything you want to do. It’s quite an effortless switch-up when you reach a certain point.”

The result of this approach is a complex world that mesmerises and marvels as it switches through genres, techniques, mediums, characters, creatures and stories. Yet, somehow, throughout her fiction, Sophie also manages to weave reality in, creating a coming of age story without constraints. Because, to her? “There is no limit.” 

‘kissing under an (almost) full moon’ is out now via Universal Music New Zealand. 

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As featured in the May 2025 issue of DIY, out now.

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